Should I make my school give me my money back?
what_the_hell_now asked:
I trained for 2 years in MMA and got my black belt and now I help teach in the school. But this weekend I was at the bar and this small guy pissed me off, so I hit him, but then he beat me up. I am supposed to be one of the best fighters in the country my teacher said, but some little guy kicked my a$s. What bullcrap!
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I trained for 2 years in MMA and got my black belt and now I help teach in the school. But this weekend I was at the bar and this small guy pissed me off, so I hit him, but then he beat me up. I am supposed to be one of the best fighters in the country my teacher said, but some little guy kicked my a$s. What bullcrap!
I want to get my money back and go to a real school where I will learn how to beat anyone’s a$s who has the nerve to piss me off.
Dop you think I can get my money back?
Melanie
January 20th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Antonio
no you probably just really suck at fighting
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Alyssa
Why don’t you try and fight them for it?
I bet you lose again you dickwad.
January 25th, 2010 at 4:47 am
Alexander
No, you got your instruction, and if you can’t fight, that is NOT the school’s fault.
January 26th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Connor
dude they taght u i recently got my black belt in tkd and u just have to spar more okay thats wat i did i reQuested to have more sparing classses
January 28th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Gianna
Doubt it. I wouldn’t try to make a big deal about it. Maybe, as I’m sure you have learned before, learn from your mistakes. Just because you have a black belt does not mean that you can step into the ring with anyone and knock them out. I would train more, perhaps learn more techniques, and brush up on your skills.
January 31st, 2010 at 9:40 am
Charles
Problem 1: You were in a bar
Problem 2: You started the fight
Problem 3: What would you claim a refund on – that they didn’t train you? If not, what have you been doing for the last 2 years?
Instead of trying to learn how to fight, try learning to defend yourself by avoiding conflicts that will lead to fighting. And stay away from bars – alcohol eliminates any and all training you think you have.
February 3rd, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Daniel
You should go punch a cop in the face. That will afford you the opportunity to learn to fight prison inmates. When you get out you’ll be unbeatable.
(before I get a ton of thumb’s down this post is sarcasm and humor)
February 4th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Justin
Seriously? Now they’re giving belts out for MMA? And in 2 years a black belt? Sounds more like a McDojo to me, but alas, buyer beware is the rule with martial arts. To praphrase Jeff Foxworthy, If your art teaches you to knock the opponent out with breathing techniques and mysterious internal powers, it might be a McDojo. If your art gives 13 year olds black belts, it might be a McDojo. If your art has ever used the words ‘Dillman’, ‘Dim Mak’, or ‘freakin Ninja, man’, it might be a McDojo.
And I doubt you’d get your money back, since you actually taught other people to do what you now consider to be worthless…which means they could, theoretically, sue YOU for the money THEY’RE out if YOU sue for the money YOU’RE out. See how that works? I’d say stop picking on small guys in bars who might have guns and shoot you before you perform that spinning double axe moon high kick you worked on for 2 weeks to pass the belt test, and start coming to terms with the fact that the world isn’t fair, people will piss you off, and you’ll go to jail if you get into fights outside of the ring/cage. But what do I know?
February 5th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Savannah
Forget trying to get your money back, just find a real martial arts school.
Two years to black belt, hahahahahaha, McDojo !!!!
February 6th, 2010 at 1:24 am
Lauren
Well…….. for starters there are no belts in MMA……..
If you trained for 2 years and achieved the highest rank (black belt) you definetely went to a Mcdojo, unless you are BJ Penn, and can learn world-class grappling in a year.
A real martial artist will know that nobody should be underestimated, how do you know the small guy wasn’t a trained fighter?
Once you really learn to kick butt, then you become humble and respectful, if you don’t chances are you’ll be beaten often.
I don’t think you’ll get your money back, specially on the grounds of losing in a bar fight that you started.
best of luck!
February 6th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Claire
maybe u should try picking a fight with different kinds of people… like the elderly at a convalescent. or kids with down syndrome. or someone who’s blind.
i can almost guarantee that if u fight any of the above…it’ll even up ur record.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Lauren
I want to get my money back and go to a real school where I will learn how to beat anyone’s a$s who has the nerve to piss me off
The nerve to piss you off? You have the wrong frame of mind and you should not be learning how to fight at all. But I suppose you spent 2 years learning how not to fight….so problem solved. lol
February 13th, 2010 at 1:03 am
Angelina
Hey, go back to the bar and find that little guy. Then bring HIM to the school and have them give you your money back or he will beat them up. Then split the money they give you and go back to the bar for drinks.
February 13th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Gianna
thats nothing,
Last weekend I adopted a giant panda at the ASPCA, and it turned out to be minime with a bunch of fur glued onto it.
They said because I was drunk and midgets are more endangered than pandas I had to turn him over to the bronx zoo.
February 15th, 2010 at 4:47 am
Gabrielle
That sounds like a frustrating situation. But Martial Arts is not about fighting it is intended to protect yourself. Or to protect others. Picking a fight is not the heart of Martial Arts.
I hope the situation teaches you humility and respect for all people. The more you know about Martial arts the more you should be secure in yourself. This is what this question is about. . .You are insecure with yourself and are taking it out on your school, the little guy etc.
Keep learning. Two years, twenty years . . time never matters.
I can learn from my son about the joy of life and he is only four months old.
Hang in there. . .
February 18th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Valeria
Roflmao! First of all your teacher didn’t specifically say you were one of the best street/bar/anywhere fighters in the country, which probably meant he expected you to fight inside your dojo only. Secondly, you picked a fight with a guy who you thought was an easy mark, which meant you underestimated your opponent and paid for it. Thirdly, 2 years in any martial arts is no guarantee that it’ll make you a good fighter, 2 years in Sing Sing maybe. As for your money back, unless you got a really good lawyer who can outrun an ambulance, forget about it, just charge it to experience and train to be a Ninja next time : P
February 19th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Caleb
Hahahah… Im sorry to laugh at your ploy, but likely your mma school will do that if you ask for your money back. Just because MMA is popular doesn’t mean it’s always effective. Being popular, makes it more suseptable to McDojo-dom. Same thing hapened to TaeKwonDo, which suffers from too many McDojos as well. You’d have been better off with a lesser known martial art, or at a smaller dojo, or even one taught at a YMCA! lol. Wing Chun, Isshinryu, Goju-ryu, Hung Gar, etc…
If you want to mix, then you should mix them on your own, and find a master of Judo, or Jujitsu. Rather than study with someone who already Mixed martial arts, not necessarily mastering either style, you should find masters of one style, study their style.
February 22nd, 2010 at 1:42 am
Brooke
You have already lost twice, 1st you hit someone (luck he don’t press charges) and 2nd you did not read your contract..No refunds.
Have you ever heard or have been told (I guess not) You win some, you lose some.
I have been a martial artist most of my life and at one time I knew this 2nd BB in korean karate and he got the DOG SNOT knocked out of him in a gas station parking lot, and he did not make the first move like you did. He was defending himself and lost, 1 on 1 and I help him back into his car and we drove off. I respected this guy and knew he was much better then me in the Dojang and torunaments but, I am a better street fighter NO RULES.
Go to another school and try a different art. For the past ten years I have been learning and teaching the art of Kenpo, it is an awesome self defense art. It is a street proven art that does work.
If someone makes you upset…walk away, don’t put yourself in that situation. Learning self defense is not about kicking someones butt, control is the name of the game.
February 22nd, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Joshua
You should demand your money back. They sold you the illusion that you could handle yourself in any fight. They sold you a lie.
When you get your money back, look up instruction in Shaolin Kung Fu and Tai Chi. As you get further advanced, you will want to learn Bagua and Xingyi. Tai Chi is the most powerful martial art. It uses sensitivity to listen to an opponent, softness and relaxation to outlast an opponent. A Tai Chi strike is like getting hit by a steel bar hidden in cotton.
Thank the small guy at the bar for showing you that you have been walking the wrong path and pointing the way down a new path for you.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:51 pm
John
1) No.
2) Find a school where you will be taught not only how to fight, but when not to fight. Obviously this school taught you neither.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Jasmine
In a word, no. Don’t even try to get anything back.
What you should do however is re-examine your motives for learning a martial art. Most of the arts are about self-discipline and respect for others, as well as training – not kicking a$s.
In your own words, I want to get my money back and go to a real school where I will learn how to beat anyone’s a$s who has the nerve to piss me off.
The school I train and teach at would politely ask someone with that type of attitude to go somewhere else. And, so would most reputable schools.
The best fight is the one you can avoid.